Busting The Renewable Energy ‘Storage’ Myth: It’s All About The Numbers (And The Weather)

Promoters reckon the hopeless intermittency of wind and solar can cured by “storing” it – using insanely expensive lithium batteries or pumped hydro or something vaguely resembling a perpetual motion machine. None of the charlatans pushing the grid-scale storage of electricity generated by subsidised wind and solar have apparently cottoned on to the laws of thermodynamics.

The myth that wind and solar are meaningful power sources was busted long ago. Quite apparently incapable of operating on their own, what purports to be the future of electricity generation turns out to be a pair of complete duds.

[Note to Ed: is this the part where we point out pesky facts such as sunset, cloudy days, breathless nights and the vagaries of the weather, more generally?]

As any good propagandist knows, selling a whopper takes a solid dose of audacity and a superior command (some might say active abuse) of language.

The latest purported fix-all is “firming”; being a reference to reliable, dispatchable and controllable electricity generation sources. [Note to Ed: you mean the system we’ve had in place for a century – ie coal, gas, stored hydro and, in those clever countries that have it, nuclear?].

The notion is that if a little firming capacity is added to the unreliables, all of a sudden, nature’s wonder fuels will soon whisk us to an all wind and sun powered future. RE propagandists coined the term “inevitable transition” to capture the wind and solar cult’s furtive imaginations.

The argument goes that we should build a system that works (identical in principle to what we already have) to compensate for the chaotic intermittency of one that we don’t need (because we already have one that does the job and, until now, happily did so without a glitch).

Never mind the cost. Never mind physics. Never mind engineering. And to hell with the economics.

With Australia’s eastern grid heading for an inevitable collapse – thanks to the chaotic and occasional delivery of wind and solar – renewable energy rent seekers seem to think that – having gouged power consumers for $60 billion worth in subsidies – taxpayers will happily fork out untold $billions more on giant Teslas and hundreds of pumped hydro projects – neither of which add a single watt of generation capacity. They merely store electricity, redeliver at a later time and consume copious amounts of electricity during the process.

And, as David Bidstrup points out below, there is a monumental chasm in wind and solar power output that would need to be magically filled to get anywhere near the dream of an all wind and sun powered future.

The vexed question of energy storage
Catallaxy Files
David Bidstrup
18 March 2021

The popular belief is that renewable energy can be made to “work” by using storage whereby excess capacity is used to charge something up, be it a battery, pumped hydro, compressed air storage or even the lifting and lowering of weights from storage “towers” and then releasing the “stored energy” when it is needed. As all politicians’ promise that they will rid us of the nasty fossil fuels and give us all clean green wind and solar I thought I would see what was involved in getting to this utopian place.

The process is a bit convoluted but bear with me.

The first step is to look at some actual data gleaned from AEMO records and find out the demand and the contribution to meeting that demand from nasty fossil fuels and lovely renewables. The only actual records I have are for 2018, (thanks to Andrew Miskelly), so they will have to do for this illustrative example. The records give the output of every generator in the system every five minutes so the files are large, (105,000 lines for one year), and take a bit of wrangling.

The studies below are based on full renewables to provide the electricity. The demand curve is just the total of all output for the various time periods as electricity is generated to meet demand. There is no “excess electricity” sloshing around waiting for something to use it.

After finding the combined output for wind and solar for the periods under investigation the next step is to scale them up to a point where there are periods of excess capacity to “charge something up” and periods where the stored power is used and hopefully balancing them up. The first example uses January 18 and 19 2018, days where the temperatures were high and demand also. In the chart below the black line is the total demand in MW and the shaded blue area is the output of combined wind and solar scaled up by a factor of 19. Any blue shaded area above the demand line represents MWh that can be “stored” as supply exceeds demand. Note that there are 288 time intervals for one day, (24X12). The clear areas below the demand curve are the times when “stored energy” needs to be released as supply is less than demand.

The wind and solar outputs are as they were on the actual days, but scaled up to find the level necessary to be able to “store” enough to cover the periods where demand exceeded output. In the example above the “stored energy” is about 207,000 MWh and the requirement to top up is about 195,000 MWh, so in the paddock. Note the amount to be stored, it is around 2,070 100 MWh batteries which cost about $100 million each. We also need 19 times as much wind and solar generating capacity as we had in 2018.

I then looked at some days in winter, 30 June and 1 and 2 July to see if the scale up was any different.

Here the “storage” was 496,000 MWh and the deficit was 345,000 MWh, so there needs to be 3,450 100 MWh batteries available to be “charged up”.

This analysis is illustrative only and uses data that is 3 years old but it shows the issues that we face if the future is hung on renewables and storage. The “supply” curves shown are actual data scaled up so the “intermittency/unreliability” of wind and solar is evident.

The management of a system that had to constantly balance storage and deficits on a daily basis would be fraught with complexity and it would not take much for the system to fall over completely, something like a week of wind drought for example.

I am sure that there are people who are smarter than me and who could wrangle the data better to get more definitive results but the issue of “storage” and the quantification of it is something I never hear about when the fanatics promise us the world for nothing.
Catallaxy Files

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  1. Donald J HILLIKER says:

    Last plant I worked at – 2 units coal fired rated at about 330 MWe each – with a 3rd unit having been decommissioned, sold off to a sub company and repowered with natural gas – 4 years at that plant – peaking power never got expensive enough to fire the gas unit. Now it seems that lack of repairs (validated by friends still working there) the last coal plant unit operating (voltage control and load following) has been derated to just 30 megawatts now, while consuming roughly the same coal as was needed to produce 330 megawatts a few years ago. No explination on the derate other than lack of boiler and turbine maintenance but that is a criminal waste.

  2. Peter Pronczak says:

    In an often stated egalitarian society like AU, it should have been thought selfish for private suburban dwellings to install solar panels with feed-in tariffs up to 3 times more than the feed-out price. When all the payments end, there will remain the ongoing subsidised trailing costs for solar and wind. For all the political and economic windbags claim’s to care about ‘the ordinary people’ it remains the same BS of the Roman Empire.

    What difference is there between such subsidies; the first homeowners grant, family trusts lie, and tax havens? With the latter two royally instigated: No thanks to a claimed divine right. This under an internationally dumbed down education system that equally applies to so-called social leaders as to their children and grandchildren (common sense; where?). How much leaded petrol contributed to mental retardation, as did lead water supply pipes isn’t known: Reap what you sow.

    If anyone can define how the position of Remembrancer makes the Westminster system democratic, I’m willing to listen. Otherwise I will continue to believe, as apparently does Robert Zubrin, that the international Green Party movement (August Haussleiter) is dictatorially fascist.
    Odd that the financer of the documentary Unlawful Killing Princess Diana has not had a legal action of slander instigated since the film was first shown at Cannes in 2013: royalty loves financial compensation; it lives off public funds.
    How idiotic is it to have a rehearsal for a funeral? As if a family requires practice in an expensive display of the celebrity cult of public opinion control, that continues to be kept subjected to private financial government sanctioned theft, ie., tax havens, family trusts.
    We are after all social creatures who’s maturity is reflected in a social conscience, not how much money an individual has: But an alien would not guess that.

    As STT once posted, the film Idiocracy is entirely pertinent to politics. Even though political Whips continue to make members conform to private demands to steal from public coffers. Really? Are they too stupid to understand, or is the guaranteed pay too great a temptation, or their own idiocy make them ignore right from wrong?

    It’s unfortunate that what politicians do come to their senses, do so when it’s too late to really do anything about it, ie., Malcolm Fraser (NATO warning), Bob Hawke (nuclear support).
    What next, belief in petrol pricing fluctuation being market driven?

  3. Rafe Champion says:

    Here is a costing study of battery firming for a single windfarm in Australia, produced for the Energy Realists of Australia.

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